Movieland Mystery Photo (Updated + + + +)

Jan. 16, 2021, Cheers for Miss Bishop Main Title

This week’s mystery movie was the 1941 film “Cheers for Miss Bishop,” with Martha Scott, William Gargan, Edwin Gwenn, Sidney Blackmer, Dorothy Peterson, Sterling Holloway, Donald Douglas, Marsha Hunt, Lois Ranson and Mary Anderson.

From the novel “Miss Bishop” by Bess Streeter Aldrich. Screen adaptation by Stephen Vincent Benet. Screenplay by Adelaide Heilbron and Sheridan Gibney.

Music by Edward Ward. Assistant to the producer Grant Whytock. Photographed by Hal Mohr, casting director David C. Werner, art direction by John DuCasse Schulze, costumes for Miss Scott by Irene Saltern. Makeup by Don Cash, sound by Earl Sitar.

Edited by William Claxton, re-recording by Richard Heermance. Set decoration by Julia Heron. Assistant director Joseph C. Boyle. Production manager Sherman A. Harris.

Released through United Artists. Produced by Richard A. Rowland. Directed by Tay Garnett.

“Cheers for Miss Bishop” is available on DVD from TCM and via streaming at Amazon.

Martha Scott and William Gargan drink Pepsi!

I chose “Cheers for Miss Bishop” as it was on a reviewers’ list of Best Films of 1941, and it ended up being another weeper after last week’s “The Sin of Madelon Claudet.” According to IMDB, Mystery Photo regular Jack Mulhall appears in the film, but this multi-generation dupe is so murky I couldn’t pick him out.

Then there’s the plot of what ought to be called “Tears for Miss Bishop.” If anyone is looking for a movie about the crushed hopes and sad love life of a never-married English teacher (Martha Scott) at a small Midwestern college in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, “Cheers for Miss Bishop” is just the movie for you.

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Bess Streeter Aldrich’s novel has been reprinted numerous times, so it exists online primarily in preview and “no preview available” formats. A little digging leads to a public domain copy in Australia and here you are. Based on a scan of the book, it appears to be only marginally better than the film, but at least raises the question of what careers and what sorts of educational opportunities were open to a woman, just off the farm, in a small Midwestern town in horse-and-buggy days.

The major question for me is why this film resonated so much in the 1940s as it was surely dated even then. “Miss Bishop” is supposed to pay tribute to a great and inspiring teacher, but we see little of that. It’s mostly about her sad love life.

I should say something about the stalkery character played by William Gargan, but I’m not sure what. He is the dull, lukewarm perennial suitor, always lumpy and always coming around. Then there’s the cad (Donald Douglas) who dumps Miss Bishop for her bad-girl cousin Amy (Mary Anderson) – or at least as bad as one can be in a small, Midwestern town of the 19th century. And of course Amy conveniently dies in childbirth because that’s what happens to man-stealing women in these kinds of novels, leaving a daughter (Marsha Hunt). She and her granddaughter (Lois Ranson) provide youthful elements as the characters age.  Amy’s daughter gets married in Miss Bishop’s symbolically unfinished wedding dress – let the tears flow!

Trivia notes: Barbara Stanwyck was originally cast to play the lead in what was then titled “Three Cheers for Miss Bishop.” Portions of the film were shot on location in Lincoln, Neb. Sterling Holloway performed some scenes from a wheelchair after breaking his leg.

Harrison’s Reports (Jan. 25, 1941) said:

A charming, sentimental drama, revolving around a teacher, who, because of her ability, sympathy, and understanding, came to be loved and respected, not only by the students at the college but also by everyone who came in contact with her. Her personal life receives a great deal of attention — her two unhappy loves. There is very little comedy in this picture, but there are several situations that bring tears to one’s eyes.

Modern Screen (April 1941) said:

Reach for your handkerchiefs, gals, here comes a sobbie. And in case you gents let that approach keep you away from the picture, you’re just plain suckers. It’s one of the best of the season, and Martha Scott’s characterization is magnificent.

Richard Rowland Terry Ramsaye, writing Richard A. Rowland’s obituary (Motion Picture Herald, May 17, 1947), noted that “Cheers for Miss Bishop” was Roland’s last film. Ramsaye said:

The picture had extraordinary merit as a sympathetic study of a devoted and virtuous schoolteacher, but its appeals were for oldsters, not the box office majority.

And let’s see which New York Times critic hated the film….

It’s Bosley Crowther, and he didn’t exactly hate it, writing in the New York Times (March 14, 1941):

These are bitter times, when looking backward is much more pleasant for a lot of people than looking ahead. And that is why a goodly number will probably find much comfort and delight in Richard Rowland’s sentimental survey of a simple and homely life well-spent — a little picture called “Cheers for Miss Bishop,” which opened yesterday at the Music Hall. For there is nothing about this Miss Bishop and the even and ordered world in which she lived to disturb or upset the thoughts of anyone in this hectic day. In fact, there is little about her to disturb anything, save perhaps a random tear. “Cheers for Miss Bishop” is decidedly a lavendered and lace-adorned memorial to a sweet and tender way of life now spent.

Jan. 11, 2021, Mystery Photo

For Monday, we have a mystery woman.

Update: This is Lois Ranson.

Jan. 12, 2021, Mystery Photo

For Tuesday, we have a mystery woman.

Update: This is Rosemary DeCamp.

Jan. 13, 2021, Mystery Photo

The characters age over the course of our mystery movie. Here’s one of the characters in his early days …

Jan. 13, 2021, Mystery Photo

… and much older.

Update: This is Knox Manning.

Jan. 13, 2021, Mystery Photo

Here’s another character when he is younger ….

Jan. 13, 2021, Mystery Photo

… and here he is much older. With Back of the Head Woman, who will appear Friday.

Update: This is Edmund Gwenn and Martha Scott as Back of the Head Woman.

Brain Trust roll call: Tucson Barbara (mystery movie and both mystery guests), Jenny M. (mystery movie, both mystery guests), Howard Mandelbaum (mystery movie and both mystery guests), Bob Hansen (Tuesday’s mystery guest), Gary (mystery movie and both mystery guests), David Inman (Tuesday’s mystery woman), Mike Hawks (Tuesday’s mystery woman), L.C. (mystery movie and mystery cast), Roget-L.A. (mystery movie and both mystery guests), Sheila (Tuesday’s mystery woman), Candace R. Copley (Tuesday’s mystery woman) and Sylvia E. (Tuesday’s mystery woman).

Jan. 14, 2021, Mystery Photo

For “Aha Thursday,” we have guests of varying “aha-ness.” The first is this mystery gent.

Update: This is Sidney Blackmer.

Jan. 14, 2021, Mystery Photo

The second is this mystery woman.

Update: This is Mary Anderson.

Jan. 14, 2021, Mystery Photo

And the third mystery guest for “Aha Thursday”….

Update: This is Sterling Holloway.

Brain Trust roll call: Blackwing Jenny (mystery movie, Tuesday’s mystery woman and Wednesday’s mystery astronomer and mysterious college president) Tucson Barbara (Wednesday’s mystery astronomer, mysterious college president and Back of the Head Woman), David Inman (mystery movie, Wednesday’s mysterious college president), Mike Hawks (mystery movie, Wednesday’s mysterious college president), Sheila (Wednesday’s mysterious college president), Patrick (mystery movie and all mystery guests), Mary Mallory (mystery movie and all mystery guests), Howard Mandelbaum (Wednesday’s mystery guests and Back of the Head Woman), Roget-L.A. (mystery movie, Wednesday’s mystery guests and Back of the Head Woman), Megan and Thom (Wednesday’s mysterious college president), Sylvia E. (Wednesday’s mysterious college president) and Anne Papineau (the enigmatic college president).

Jan. 15, 2021, Mystery Photo

For Friday, we have our leading lady and her mysterious persistent suitor.

Update: This is William Gargan and Martha Scott.

Jan. 15, 2021, Mystery Photo

As with “The Sin of Madelon Claudet,” our leading lady ages throughout the film. Here she is in heavy age makeup.

Update: This is Martha Scott.

Brain Trust roll call: Mary Mallory (Thursday’s mystery guests), Tucson Barbara (Thursday’s mystery guests), Sue Slutzky (mystery movie and all mystery guests), Howard Mandelbaum (Thursday’s mystery guests), Anne Papineau (mystery movie and Thursday’s mystery guests), Mike Hawks (Thursday’s mystery guests), Charles Kjelland (Thursday’s mysterious campus groundskeeper), Noir Allie (Thursday’s mysterious groundskeeper), Roget-L.A. (mystery movie and Thursday’s mystery guests), Funky PhD. (mystery movie, Tuesday’s mystery woman, Wednesday’s mysterious college president, Thursday’s mysterious campus groundskeeper, and Back of the Head Woman), Megan and Thom (mystery movie, Tuesday’s, Wednesday’s and Thursday’s mysterious groundskeeper), Earl Boebert (Thursday’s mysterious groundskeeper), Sylvia E. (mystery movie, Wednesday’s and Thursday’s mystery guests), Dan Nather (Thursday’s mysterious campus groundskeeper) and Benito (mystery movie, Wednesday’s mysterious college president and Thursday’s mysterious campus groundskeeper).

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53 Responses to Movieland Mystery Photo (Updated + + + +)

  1. Howard Mandelbaum says:

    Heather Angel.

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  2. tucsonbarbara says:

    Rosemary DeCamp. Don’t know the movie, though – yet.

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  3. Jenny M says:

    Lois Ranson and Rosemary DeCamp in Cheers for Miss Bishop.

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  4. Howard Mandelbaum says:

    “Cheers for Miss Bishop” (1941)
    Monday: Lois Ranson
    Tuesday: Rosemary DeCamp

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  5. Bob Hansen says:

    I think Tuesday’s woman is Rosemary DeCamp. I have no clue what the movie is though.

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  6. tucsonbarbara says:

    I think the movie is “Cheers for Miss Bishop” with Lois Ranson and Rosemary DeCamp so far.

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  7. Gary says:

    I have never seen Rosemary DeCamp looking younger.

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  8. David Inman says:

    Rosemary DeCamp today?

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  9. mike hawks says:

    Rosemary DeCamp.

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  10. Gary says:

    Lois Ranson and Rosemary Decamp in Cheers for Miss Bishop.

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  11. Monday’s actress: June Duprez?

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  12. LC says:

    Cheers for Miss Bishop (1941) Lois Ranson, Rosemary DeCamp, Martha Scott, Marsha Hunt, William Gargan, Edmund Gwenn, Sterling Holloway, John Archer…

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  13. Rogét-L.A. says:

    Rosemary DeCamp in (shot in the dark) Hold Back the Dawn 1941?

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  14. Rogét-L.A. says:

    Make that Rosemary DeCamp in Cheers for Miss Bishop (1941)

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  15. Rogét-L.A. says:

    Monday’s mystery woman is Lois Ranson in Cheers for Miss Bishop (1941)

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  16. sheila says:

    Karin Booth and Rosemary DeCamp, ‘Hold Back the Dawn’?

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  17. CANDACE R COPLEY says:

    Rosemary DeCamp

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  18. Sylvia E. says:

    Tuesday’s woman looks like a very young Rosemary DeCamp.

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  19. Rosemary De Camp!. And Edmund Gwen and the guy with the ears is Knox Manning, so it’s “Cheers For Miss Bishop”. So it’s Mary Anderson from “Lifeboat” as mystery lady #1?

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  20. tucsonbarbara says:

    Knox Manning, Edmund Gwenn and Martha Scott

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  21. David Inman says:

    Edmund Gwenn today, making this “Cheers for Miss Bishop.”

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  22. mike hawks says:

    Edmund Gwenn in CHEERS FOR MISS BISHOP.

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  23. sheila says:

    Edmund Gwenn for Wednesday?

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  24. Patrick says:

    Lois Ranson, Rosemary DeCamp, Knox Manning, Edmund Gwenn in Cheers for Miss Bishop from 1941.

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  25. Mary Mallory says:

    CHEERS FOR MISS BISHOP. Lois Ranson Monday, Rosemary DeCamp yesterday, and Knox Manning and Edmund Gwenn today.

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  26. Announcer Knox Manning; Edmund Gwenn, Martha Scott.

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  27. Rogét-L.A. says:

    Knox Manning and Edmund Gwenn (with Martha Scott?) in Cheers for Miss Bishop 1941

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  28. Megan and Thom says:

    Edmund Gwenn is our second guest today.

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  29. Sylvia E. says:

    Wed – guy#2 is Edmund Gwenn.

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  30. Anne Papineau says:

    On Wednesday, Edmund Gwenn

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  31. Mary Mallory says:

    Sidney Blackmer, Mary Anderson, and good old Sterling Holloway.

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  32. tucsonbarbara says:

    Sidney Blackmer, Mary Anderson, Sterling Holloway

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  33. Sue Slutzky says:

    Movie: Cheers for Miss Bishop
    Monday: Lois Ranson
    Tuesday: Rosemary DeCamp
    Wednesday: Knox Manning, Edmund Gwenn
    Thursday: Sidney Blackmer, Mary Anderson, and Sterling Holloway

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  34. Howard Mandelbaum says:

    Sidney Blackmer; Mary Anderson; Sterling Holloway.

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  35. Anne Papineau says:

    Sydney Blackmer and Sterling Holloway in “Cheers for Miss Bishop”

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  36. mike hawks says:

    Sidney Blackmer, Mary Anderson and Sterling Holloway.

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  37. Charle Kjelland says:

    Sterling Holloway today.

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  38. Allie Francis says:

    I see Sterling Holloway.

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  39. Rogét-L.A. says:

    Sidney Blackmer, Mary Anderson, and Sterling Holloway in Cheers for Miss Bishop (1941)

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  40. FunkyPhD says:

    Tuesday’s second mystery lady is Rosemary De Camp. (I haven’t gotten Monday’s: Marsha Hunt?). Edmund Gwenn is the college president, Sterling Holloway is Thursday’s third mystery guest. The film is Cheers for Miss Bishop, which would make Martha Scott the BOTH leading lady.

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  41. Megan and Thom says:

    Our movie is Cheers for Miss Bishop, with Sterling Holloway as today’s last guest.

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  42. Earl Boebert says:

    Sterling Holloway is Thursday #3, methinks.

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  43. Megan and Thom says:

    Our other guests are Rosemary DeCamp for Tuesday, Knox Manning for Wednesday, and Sidney Blackmer and Mary Anderson for today.

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  44. Sylvia E. says:

    Cheers for Miss Bishop 1941

    Wednesday
    Knox Manning / Edmund Gwenn

    Thursday
    Sterling Holloway
    Sidney Blackmer

    Yet to come
    Martha Scott, William Gargan, Mary Anderson, Dorothy Peterson

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  45. Dan Nather says:

    Sterling Holloway today! I still have no clue about the movie, but it’s amazing where he turns up sometimes . . .

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  46. Benito says:

    Edmund Gwenn, Sterling Holloway in the rather depressing CHEERS FOR MISS BISHOP 1941.

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  47. tucsonbarbara says:

    William Gargan and Martha Scott (young and old).

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  48. Mary Mallory says:

    William Gargan and Martha Scott.

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  49. Howard Mandelbaum says:

    William Gargan, Martha Scott.

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  50. mike hawks says:

    William Gargan and Martha Scott.

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  51. Patrick says:

    Sidney Blackmer, Mary Anderson, Sterling Holloway, William Gargan, Martha Scott

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  52. Sue Slutzky says:

    Friday: William Gargan and Martha Scott.

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