Movieland Mystery Photo [Updated ++]

Movieland Mystery Photo

And for Friday, we have a mystery mass-transportation photo! How long before the Daily Mirror brain trust identifies the type of streetcar?

Movieland Mystery Photo

Here’s the front half of the streetcar…. Please congratulate Alice M. Thornton for identifying the movie. The brain trust never ceases to amaze me!

Mystery Photo

And here’s the reason I ran these photos. The film shows more than a dozen men clinging to the outside of a streetcar. Although this scene is from a slapstick comedy, news accounts from the 1907-1911 period in Los Angeles indicate that it was common for people to hang on to  to the outside of crowded streetcars. There’s a shot in another comedy that I’m going to try to track down because it shows a similar situation.

Please congratulate George Raymond and William Stansel for identifying the film.

"Pay Day"

This is Charlie Chaplin’s 1922 two-reeler “Pay Day.”

Undated Los Angeles Streetcar

Here’s an undated example of the type of streetcar used in Chaplin’s “Pay Day” in a photo from the Huntington Library published in the Los Angeles Railroad Heritage Foundation Journal. My recollection from the old clips is that the open areas of these streetcars were intended for smokers. Bimini Hot Springs was at 3rd Street and Vermont Avenue.

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15 Responses to Movieland Mystery Photo [Updated ++]

  1. B.J. Merholz says:

    The Los Angeles Red Car.


  2. Harold Lloyd and HOT WATER?


  3. alicemthornton says:

    Is this from “Pay Day” with Charlie Chaplin?


  4. Riley says:

    I think this is one of 3 PE cars, numbered 149-151, it’s heaviest wood city cars, built 1902 and scrapped 1926, according to Walker. I consulted Jim Walker’s “The Yellow Cars of Los Angeles” and “Cars of Pacific Electric, v.1 (Interurbans Special 28). ed. by Jim Walker. It’s a California type car (open ends). Determining features I used are the monitor roof, five window front, non-arched standee windows, at least four windows on the side with at least 4 the same size, 3 pillars at end, with entrance at end.


  5. Wm. Stansel says:

    Red Car? Tough to see all the details but that’s my guess. I rode them many times as a child, early 40s, to DownTown LA. Im stumped (so far) as to the movie. Probably wrong on the streetcar too!


  6. Earl Boebert says:

    Probably a 1909 Pacific Electric 500 class car.




  7. possibly the red car


  8. Gary Martin says:

    Pleae don’t get upset ….I’ve researched this on Wikip….and as I don’t have all day to go through all that voluminous material I will hazard the guess that this is an American Car and Foundry model …I won’t go into the car type, etc. Further, in the photograph extreme left we see the rail thin Harold Lloyd in a dark suit and white boater and so the film is Girl Shy.


  9. Gary Martin says:

    I had better change my answer as wikip says that Girl Shy was filmed about the Pacific Electric Red Car line. As for the model number shown, that is for another day.


  10. Mary Mallory says:



  11. george raymond says:

    It appears to me to be a scene the Charles Chaplin short-film Pay Day. Unable to board the trolly, he is continually pushed out the other side by the crowds.


  12. Wm. Stansel says:

    The 2nd “clue” prompts me to try again. How about Charlie Chaplin, “Payday”, 1922. The streetcar is a guess….LARy_863


  13. Mary Mallory says:

    It’s Chaplin there, so is it THE KID? I can’t remember any nighttime streetcar shots.


  14. Joan says:

    The site of Bimini Hot Springs is now the Vons market; in back of the Vons is the Bimini Slough Ecology Park

    The apartment buildings in back of the Vons, opposite the Ecology Park, were originally residence hotels for people visiting the Bimini Baths. The route of the Red Car tracks are painted on the road on the corner of 2nd and White House Lane/Commonweath Avenue.


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